Tuesday, January 11, 2005

Another protest against the President to "support" the troops

Clint, How's it going? I thought you Madison guys were able to take a joke. Just because "my party" does or says something doesn't mean that I agree with it. I have plenty of disagreement with the Republican party, but I feel their ideas are better for the country overall. I think we should spread democracy to places such as Iraq, Iran, and N.Korea because that is the only way to ensure our safety. Yes, it is true that the CIA'sintelligence on WMD's was flawed. But, if you remember, President Bush said that we must engage enemies 'before' the threat is imminent. That means we should strike enemies before they are able to acquire WMD's or export terrorists.
Speaking of revisionist narrative, your claim that detente was at least partially responsible for the collaspe of the Soviet Union is purely speculative. It is often a fantasy of those on the left that our enemies could be defeated by laying down our arms and talking nicely with them. I'm sure Hitler would have fallen for this. Do you think that our military buildup and, the Soviet Union's penchant for buying weapons instead of food, to try to keep up with us, had anything to do with their collapse? Or was communism destined to fail? If so, why are liberals so hell-bent on starting communism here.
Also, you don't say anything about wars ending slavery or Nazism. Germany didn't attack us first during WWII. Yet, after Pearl Harbor, we went right after them because we knew they were a threat, just like Iraq and countries of their ilk. Should we have engaged in the Civil war or WWII? Better yet, how would you handle the situation in Iraq, Iran, or N.Korea? Liberals are like Randy Moss, they don't know that they are bad for the team.

~Best, Gregg



On 11 Jan 2005, clint muche wrote:>
Gregg, This is a really mature and well thought out response...In case you'd conveniently forgotten the humanitarian rationales for war are merely the most recent justification-- a rationale I might add which your party has roundly rejected as a valid basis for US military intervention. Maybe we could have "not one damn shred of integrity day." Better yet, it couldbe a continuous theme for eight years!
FYI, detente and economic engagement ended communism. The wars we fought "against it" were unsuccessful (see Vietnam), and the proxies wesupported as enemies of our enemy have come to roost as our enemies of today (see bin Laden, Hussein). Its a compelling revisionist narrative though--I seeyou've> got a future in Republican politics.
--Clint Muche

My response to the protest:
Not spending money for a day should be pretty simple for most pothead-peacenik-hippies, since they don't have jobs anyway. Maybe you could call it "not one damn job day" Where the few anti-war protesterswith jobs call in sick. Millions of coffee shops, hemporiums, and art supply stores would be without employees for a day. That would really show those capitalist pigs we mean business!
Even better, we could call it "Not one damn rape room day." This could remind the world that without U.S. involvement, women in Iraq could face the joys of rape by Oday and Qusai Hussein. Or, "Not one damn beheading day." On this day we could sympathize and understand the feelings of the terrorists so that we can have a better world view of the situation. This way all the Islamo-fascists terrorist would learn to love us and the war would end in a flurry of rose petals. Actually I envy, the peaceniks...ignorance is bliss and I haven't beenthat ignorant since 4th grade. Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism, and communism, war has never solved anything.

Peace-out

~Gregg



This is the original email I received:

Inauguration Day, Thursday, January 20th, 2005 is "Not One Damn Dime Day" in America. On "Not One Damn Dime Day" those who oppose what is happening in our name in Iraq can speak up with a 24-hour national boycott of all forms of consumer spending. During "Not One Damn Dime Day" please don't spend money. Not one damn dime for gasoline. Not one damn dime for necessities or for impulse purchases. Not one damn dime for anything for 24 hours. On "Not One Damn Dime Day," please boycott Walmart, KMart and Target. Please don't go to the mall or the local convenience store. Please don't buy any fast food (or any groceries at all for that matter). For 24 hours, please do what you can to shut the retail economy down. The object is simple. Remind the people in power that the war in Iraq is immoral and illegal; that they are responsible for starting it and that it is their responsibility to stop it. "Not One Damn Dime Day" is to remind them, too, that they work for the people of the United States of America, not for the international corporations and K Street lobbyists who represent the corporations and funnel cash into American politics.
Not One Damn Dime Day" is about supporting the troops. The politicians put the troops in harm's way. Now 1,200+ brave young Americans and (some estimated) 100,000 Iraqis have died. The politicians owe our troops a plan -- a way to come home. There's no rally to attend. No marching to do. No left or right wing agenda to rant about. On "Not One Damn Dime Day" you take action by doing nothing. You open your mouth by keeping your wallet closed. For 24 hours, nothing gets spent, not one damn dime, to remind our religious leaders and our politicians of their moral responsibility to end the war in Iraq and give America back to the people.

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